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	<title>Comments on: Autism Myths #2 and #10</title>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Dog Walkers</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Francisco Dog Walkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for shining a light on these things, i think that society needs to know these things so we can move forward and continue to help people with autism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for shining a light on these things, i think that society needs to know these things so we can move forward and continue to help people with autism.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the explanations everyone!

Very interesting perspective Laurentius Rex. I agree that it is all neurodiversity, but some people need aid, meds, or services that are only available to people with a certain label. Too bad the labels usually come with a stigma attached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the explanations everyone!</p>
<p>Very interesting perspective Laurentius Rex. I agree that it is all neurodiversity, but some people need aid, meds, or services that are only available to people with a certain label. Too bad the labels usually come with a stigma attached.</p>
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		<title>By: Snazzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snazzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed reading what Rachel has written, gave me a lot of insight. About the &quot;neourological&quot; vs &quot;psychological&quot; bit, &quot;neurological&quot; refers to neurons &amp; neuronal tissue usually implying the brain &amp; its neurotransmitters (messengers); whereas &quot;psychological&quot; refers to more of a problem of perception of stimuli rather than an actual physical problem with the brain or its neurotransmitters. I hope that clears up the confusion! I am a Dr by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed reading what Rachel has written, gave me a lot of insight. About the &#8220;neourological&#8221; vs &#8220;psychological&#8221; bit, &#8220;neurological&#8221; refers to neurons &amp; neuronal tissue usually implying the brain &amp; its neurotransmitters (messengers); whereas &#8220;psychological&#8221; refers to more of a problem of perception of stimuli rather than an actual physical problem with the brain or its neurotransmitters. I hope that clears up the confusion! I am a Dr by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! Our selection committee compiled an exclusive list of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedailyreviewer.com/top/Autism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Top
Autism Blogs&lt;/a&gt;, and yours was included in the Top 100!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! Our selection committee compiled an exclusive list of the <a href="http://thedailyreviewer.com/top/Autism" rel="nofollow">Top<br />
Autism Blogs</a>, and yours was included in the Top 100!</p>
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		<title>By: autie</title>
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		<dc:creator>autie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have a physical brain abnormality (septo optic dysplasia), mental illness (bipolar), AND autism. So...I get to fit into all groups!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have a physical brain abnormality (septo optic dysplasia), mental illness (bipolar), AND autism. So&#8230;I get to fit into all groups!</p>
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		<title>By: Anemone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anemone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both of these items address the same thing. A mental illness is a condition in which a healthy person has broken down under stress and is no longer functioning properly. The way in which you break down under stress is at least partly genetic (some people are more vulnerable to particular conditions than other), but the stressor is necessary for the condition to occur. Not everyone recovers from mental illness, and once it starts, it may continue on and off through the lifespan, but some do recover completely (and more than was previously thought for schizophrenia). (I agree with you that &quot;neurological&quot; versus &quot;psychological&quot; is not clear.)

Autism, on the other hand, is continuous from birth and is not going to go away with treatment, though certainly finding ways to improve coping would be a good idea, in order for us to contribute to society rather than acquire mental illness on top of the neurological difference.

I think this is something that people feel on an instinctive level, so it&#039;s rather hard to argue effectively with people who feel differently.

I&#039;m going to go check out the rest of what she wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both of these items address the same thing. A mental illness is a condition in which a healthy person has broken down under stress and is no longer functioning properly. The way in which you break down under stress is at least partly genetic (some people are more vulnerable to particular conditions than other), but the stressor is necessary for the condition to occur. Not everyone recovers from mental illness, and once it starts, it may continue on and off through the lifespan, but some do recover completely (and more than was previously thought for schizophrenia). (I agree with you that &#8220;neurological&#8221; versus &#8220;psychological&#8221; is not clear.)</p>
<p>Autism, on the other hand, is continuous from birth and is not going to go away with treatment, though certainly finding ways to improve coping would be a good idea, in order for us to contribute to society rather than acquire mental illness on top of the neurological difference.</p>
<p>I think this is something that people feel on an instinctive level, so it&#8217;s rather hard to argue effectively with people who feel differently.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to go check out the rest of what she wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurentius Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurentius Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trouble is the real myth is the myth that there is such a thing as mental illness at all, it is all neurodiversity and when autists set themselves above there cousins in oppression then it starts getting rather murky and stomach churning for me.

You see when you look at things from the perspective of the social model of disability you see, that we are indeed part of this same continuum of labelled and stigmatised people.

Now the real mental illness that I see, is delusion, that is to say the ignorant and prejudicial state of those who consider themselves so mentally and physically perfect that they can create the categories of difference and essentially piss on us all from a great height, and it smells no less for there hauteur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trouble is the real myth is the myth that there is such a thing as mental illness at all, it is all neurodiversity and when autists set themselves above there cousins in oppression then it starts getting rather murky and stomach churning for me.</p>
<p>You see when you look at things from the perspective of the social model of disability you see, that we are indeed part of this same continuum of labelled and stigmatised people.</p>
<p>Now the real mental illness that I see, is delusion, that is to say the ignorant and prejudicial state of those who consider themselves so mentally and physically perfect that they can create the categories of difference and essentially piss on us all from a great height, and it smells no less for there hauteur.</p>
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		<title>By: Your sweetie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your sweetie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post sweetie! I think the &quot;psychological&quot; definition is not so clear cut - for example genetics can also predispose people to things like depression, anxiety, psychosis - which are also talked about and seen as changes in the brain and body chemistry. I think there is no easy answer - as I understand it, people can also be genetically predisposed to being autistic. I don&#039;t think you can really separate it out.

It is all very confusing and like you say, there are so many viewpoints and experiences out there about that and about whether or not efforts should be made to find a &quot;cure.&quot; That is a very personal thing. All I know is that there needs to be even more support for and awareness about people on the spectrum and that it&#039;s so important for their (and your) voices  to lead the way with what is needed for service provision as well as politically and socially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post sweetie! I think the &#8220;psychological&#8221; definition is not so clear cut &#8211; for example genetics can also predispose people to things like depression, anxiety, psychosis &#8211; which are also talked about and seen as changes in the brain and body chemistry. I think there is no easy answer &#8211; as I understand it, people can also be genetically predisposed to being autistic. I don&#8217;t think you can really separate it out.</p>
<p>It is all very confusing and like you say, there are so many viewpoints and experiences out there about that and about whether or not efforts should be made to find a &#8220;cure.&#8221; That is a very personal thing. All I know is that there needs to be even more support for and awareness about people on the spectrum and that it&#8217;s so important for their (and your) voices  to lead the way with what is needed for service provision as well as politically and socially.</p>
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